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by I know a lil 'bout a lot of things, just enough... (letosghanima)
at July 1st, 2012 (12:06 am)

4th album update:

TAIKO http://instagr.am/p/MeeW9TAPv5/
twitter.com/30SECONDSTOMARS/status/218847888791449600 (2012-06-30)

-> Evan, Shannon & Jared on byou-daiko.

See also:

Source: @Sillywhite (twitpic.com/a0ni58)

On taiko drums:

"There is a vast variety of taiko drums that are used in Japan. Some have been based on drums imported from other cultures, and some have been developed natively. Some have tacked heads, others have head that are laced to the body. There are ornate taiko used in gagaku (imperial court music) and rustic drums for folk music. In short, there is a rich and diverse tradition of percussion in Japan. (...)

"Taiko" in general is often used to mean the relatively modern art of Japanese drum performances (kumi-daiko), but the word actually refers to the taiko drums themselves. Literally, taiko means "big/fat drum," although there are many shapes and sizes of taiko. (...)

There are many kinds of Taiko drums in Japan, but they can be broadly divided into two catagories: Taiko with a nailed head (
byou-daiko), and Taiko with heads stretched over a hoop and tensioned with ropes (shime-daiko).

Byou-daiko (also called byou uchi-daiko) have bodies that are traditionally carved from a single log, and heads that are stretched onto the taiko and tacked in place. This style of taiko cannot be tuned after the head is stretched. The nagado-daiko (long bodied taiko) is the most representative style of byou-daiko. It seems very likely that this style of taiko has its roots in Chinese or Korean antecedents. (...)

Source: www.taiko.com/taiko_resource/taiko.html

Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiko

On the origins of taiko drumming:

"Once, at a time more distant than human memory, the storm god Susanowo-no-Mikoto left his home on the seas and began to ravage the land. His wild rages so upset his sister Ameterasu Ohmikami (the sun goddess) that she fled to a cave and, rolling a boulder over its entrance, vowed never to show herself again.

The world fell into darkness and devils sprang from their hiding places to roam freely across the earth in its endless night. Knowing that all life was doomed without Ameterasu Ohmikami, the gods of heaven and earth gathered at the cave's mouth. They reasoned. They begged. They threatened. At last, they tried to force the rock from the cave's entrance but Ameterasu Ohmikami would not budge from her refuge. All creation seemed doomed.

Until, Ame-no-Uzume-no-Mikoto, a small goddess with a face creased by age and laughter, made her way into the midst of the other gods and declared that she would coax Ameterasu from the cave. The mightier gods looked at the old woman and sneered. Ame-no-Uzume-no-Mikoto smiled back at them, poured out a huge sake barrel, jumped on its head, and began a wild dance.

The loud, hard, frenetic pounding of her feet made a sound unlike any ever heard before. The rhythm was so lively, so infectious that soon the other gods, caught in Ame-no-Uzume-no-Mikoto's revelry, began to dance and sing as well. Music filled the earth and the celebration became so raucous that Ameterasu Ohmikami peeked out from her cave and, seeing the joyful faces, brought her light to the earth again. Thus, Ameterasu Ohmikami's light returned to earth, Susanowo-no-Mikoto was banished, and taiko music was born."

Source: www.waitaiko.com/about_history_of_taiko.html

Crossposted to: http://ghanisquest.dreamwidth.org/106848.html


Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: July 8th, 2012 02:14 am (UTC)

Hello! Long time lurker, first time commenter.

I have a feeling that I might have overlooked posts where this was discussed...however, somebody posted this picture from a while back with this symbol I haven't seen used on anywhere else (yet)


I can't help but think that I've seen this before, I just don't know where. Something Native American. I might be just making stuff up in my mind, but as it doesn't look like it was wrote on with marker, it might be worth a look?

Posted by: I know a lil 'bout a lot of things, just enough... (letosghanima)
Posted at: July 8th, 2012 12:00 pm (UTC)

Hello, and welcome :).

That picture has been discussed in a couple place, yes. But I didn't post anything about it here, because it's not a symbol designed or adapted by the band. At first sight it looks like a variation of two Native American sun symbols, the zia and the sun face, combined. (Look here for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_people.) But actually it's meant to be an earth symbol. That jacket of Jared's is custom made by Lina Osterman and The Church of Seitan. And the symbol is the one of the Church of Seitan.

(You know what 'seitan' is, yes? Don't be afraid. *lol*)

There used to be a tweet on Lina Osterman's twitter with a link to a pic of the jacket: http://twitpic.com/5k894n. It said "Studded denim jacket in collaboration with the @Churchofseitan for Jared Leto http://twitpic.com/5k894n". The tweet is gone now though. Don't know why.

Tweets by The Church of Seitan with pics of Jared wearing the jacket:
- http://twitter.com/#%21/Churchofseitan/status/86758056544833536
- http://twitter.com/#%21/Churchofseitan/status/87100646108573696

Tweet where they explain about their symbol:
- http://twitter.com/#%21/Churchofseitan/status/87271165147611136

Their website: http://www.thechurchofseitan.com/home.html.

So I guess it's very well possible you've seen that symbol before.

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: July 9th, 2012 04:43 am (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of the sun face.

I wasn't aware of seitan as a substitute for meat before, so this is interesting~

Reason I brought it up was because some other Echelon had come across it and were assuming it was a new(er) band symbol. I assumed that it would have been seen more obviously and often (like how the cross that Jared is using as a logo showed up on Jared's person a few times before the initial announcement of it being for his merch; one of the Echelon thought it was a prototype logo) if that was the case, so thanks for clearing all this up!

Posted by: I know a lil 'bout a lot of things, just enough... (letosghanima)
Posted at: July 9th, 2012 04:12 pm (UTC)

I think most of us thought it might be possible he had come up with a new symbol for the band (or an adaptation of an existing symbol). But usually when he does he's quite explicit about it. (Like he did with the triad.) Anyway, it was worth checking out. That's for sure.

And seitan is delicious :). Try it if you ever have the occasion.

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